This interview by James Stafford was first published by Oilprice.com March 18, 2014
Smart
 energy policies seem to be elusive. The US policy disappoints 
environmentalists and industry alike; Europe’s policy is economically 
disastrous but is getting people to change their habits; and 
developing-country subsidies aren’t helping the people they’re supposed 
to.
At a point in time when even the Chinese are having 
second thoughts about the balance they have struck between pollution and
 growth, the United States should be concerned about how much it’s 
willing to give up environmentally to remain competitive with energy. 
But there are ways to balance out this equation without further harming 
the environment or the economy, according to economist Ed Dolan.
James Stafford:When
 it comes to talk of fossil fuel prices and carbon taxes, are we stuck 
in a place that makes us choose between protecting the environment and 
protecting the poor?
Ed Dolan: No, definitely 
not. As you know, I have long advocated using the language of the 
market—prices—to communicate the message that we need to strike a better
 balance between environmental policy and energy policy. So yes, I would
 like to see higher energy prices than we have now, and yes, other 
things being equal, that would pinch everyone in the budget, including 
the poor. But, as I explained 
in a blog post a couple of years ago, there are persuasive reasons not to use energy policy to help the poor.
The
 biggest reason is that holding down energy prices is an inefficient way
 to help the poor. Most of the benefit of low energy prices goes to 
families with higher incomes. People in the lower half of the income 
distribution use only about 30% of total energy, and those truly in 
poverty only about 15%. If we try to use low energy prices as 
anti-poverty policy, 85 cents out of every dollar it costs us misses the
 target.
If we want to help the poor, we need to do something more targeted. My favorite policy would be a 
universal basic income
 of some kind. A UBI would provide a decent floor on a family’s standard
 of living without taking away their incentive to work, as many of our 
current poverty programs do. Once you have the safety net in place, then
 it makes sense to use higher energy prices to give the poor, as well as
 the rich, an incentive to turn down their thermostats, take the bus 
when they can instead of driving, and so on.
James Stafford: How do fuel subsidies fit into this equation?
Ed Dolan:
 Fortunately, in the United States, we don’t have much by way of 
absolute fuel subsidies. However, many emerging market countries, 
including Indonesia, Venezuela, Egypt and Iraq, spend huge amounts on 
fuel subsidies, nearly 10% of GDP in the case of Iraq. 
I wrote a piece
 last year explaining why these subsidies don’t help the poor much. The 
IMF calculates that for gasoline, some 60% of the benefit goes to 
families in the top 20% of the income distribution. Instead, they 
actually hurt the poor because the subsidies drain budgets of money that
 could otherwise be used for investments in education, public health, 
and infrastructure, which the poor need more of. >>>
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